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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-January-19, 17:29

Scoring: IMP


Hello, this is the first thread in the big poll. Please provide the most probable result after East opens 1♠ and you either

a) pass
b) double
c) bid 2♥.

Please do a cross imp result like:

a-b:
a-c:
b-c:

(a-c means the imps a wins over c)

Thanks :) Please try to do all 30 hands also :)
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Posted 2010-January-19, 18:35

a)
1♠-P-1NT-P
2♥-P-3♣-AP

♦AK, heart to ace, small diamond ruffed and overuffed, spade to the 9 (but pre-empted with ace), diamond ruffed. Declarer takes 5 clubs, 2 diamond ruffs, a spade and a heart.

NS -110

b )
1♠-X-2♣-AP

Same play, NS -110

c)
1♠-2♥-X-AP

singleton spade led and overtaken with T and Ace. ♦ AK and heart to the ace, diamond ruffed and overruffed, dummy's last trump gets drawn and top spades played declarer ruffing the Q. ♦Q played and held. club goes to East's Ace, last trump played and plays the ♠J.

Declarer takes 3 diamonds, 1 spade, 3 trumps.

NS -200

a vs b: flat
a/b vs c: a/b wins 3 imps

Might try the other 29 when I get some food.
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Posted 2010-January-19, 19:21

a: E/W play 3♣ after a forcing notrump auction. Only eight tricks; N/S + 50.
b: E/W buy it for 2♣ and make. N/S -90.
c: N/S play 2♥X after west's negative X is floated. N/S -200.

a-b = 4 IMPs (140)
a-c = 6 IMPs (250)
b-c = 3 IMPs (110)
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Posted 2010-January-20, 05:39

awm, on Jan 20 2010, 01:21 AM, said:

a: E/W play 3♣ after a forcing notrump auction. Only eight tricks; N/S + 50.
b: E/W buy it for 2♣ and make. N/S -90.
c: N/S play 2♥X after west's negative X is floated. N/S -200.

a-b = 4 IMPs (140)
a-c = 6 IMPs (250)
b-c = 3 IMPs (110)
Yes, I agree.

However, if I held the East hand, I'd be to scared about passing 2Hx in sequence (c.) . I will bid 2S given the solid suit. Also, I'd take a 3C bid now by partner as forcing -- so West hand will have to pass 2S. 2S = N/S score -110

a-b = 4 IMPs (140) to N/S
a-c = 4 IMPs (160) to N/S
b-c = 1 IMP (20) to N/S
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Posted 2010-January-20, 05:40

a: 1nt - 2♥ - 2♠ making 8 tricks for -110
b: 2♣ making 8 tricks for -90
c: X p? I think it is down 2 for -500 (just 3♥, 2♦, 1♠).

b-a: 1
a-c: 9
b-c: 10

Way too much thinking to do 30 hands like this!
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Posted 2010-January-20, 06:21

a: 1♠ pass 1NT pass
2♥ pass 3 ♣ all pass -1 (?) +50 Declarer losing at least four tricks outside trump and one trump.

B 1♠ X 2 ♣ all pass -110

C 1♠ 2♥ X pass pass(?) -200 given a spade, 3 trumps and two clubs.
But maybe they do not pass? And play 2 Spade or 3 Club? So I would give them +50 some time. Overall maybe an -100 on average.

So
A:B: +160 4 imps
A:C : +150 4 imps
B:C: + 10 (o imps)
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Posted 2010-January-20, 06:25

awm, on Jan 19 2010, 08:21 PM, said:

a: E/W play 3♣ after a forcing notrump auction. Only eight tricks; N/S + 50.
b: E/W buy it for 2♣ and make. N/S -90.
c: N/S play 2♥X after west's negative X is floated. N/S -200.

a-b = 4 IMPs (140)
a-c = 6 IMPs (250)
b-c = 3 IMPs (110)

Agree.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 06:26

a)
1♠-pas-1NT-pas
2♥-pas-3C-ap
result -1

B)
1♠-dbl-2C-ap
result =

c)
1♠-2H-p-ap
result -2 (could be -500 after negative dbl)

a-b pas wins dbl 4 imps (140)
a-c pas wins 2H 6 imps (250)
b-c dbl wins 2H 3 imps (110)

Not sure if I am heroic enough to do all hands.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 07:37

hanp, on Jan 20 2010, 05:55 PM, said:

awm, on Jan 19 2010, 08:21 PM, said:

a: E/W play 3♣ after a forcing notrump auction. Only eight tricks; N/S + 50.
b: E/W buy it for 2♣ and make. N/S -90.
c: N/S play 2♥X after west's negative X is floated. N/S -200.

a-b = 4 IMPs (140)
a-c = 6 IMPs (250)
b-c = 3 IMPs (110)

Agree.

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Posted 2010-January-20, 11:40

mohitz, on Jan 20 2010, 06:37 AM, said:

hanp, on Jan 20 2010, 05:55 PM, said:

awm, on Jan 19 2010, 08:21 PM, said:

a: E/W play 3♣ after a forcing notrump auction. Only eight tricks; N/S + 50.
b: E/W buy it for 2♣ and make. N/S -90.
c: N/S play 2♥X after west's negative X is floated. N/S -200.

a-b = 4 IMPs (140)
a-c = 6 IMPs (250)
b-c = 3 IMPs (110)

Agree.

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Yup. Hopefully a lot of the hands will be this easy.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 18:53

awm, on Jan 20 2010, 01:21 AM, said:

a: E/W play 3♣ after a forcing notrump auction. Only eight tricks; N/S + 50.
b: E/W buy it for 2♣ and make. N/S -90.
c: N/S play 2♥X after west's negative X is floated. N/S -200.

a-b = 4 IMPs (140)
a-c = 6 IMPs (250)
b-c = 3 IMPs (110)

I agree with adam except that north raises 2♥ to 3♥, it gets passed out and +200 still.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 07:17

a.
1♠-1N
2♥-3♣
+50

b.
1♠-x-1NT*-p
2♣-end
-90

c.
1♠-2♥-x-end
Looks like it's -200...

ab: 4
ac: 6
bc: 3
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Posted 2010-January-23, 14:04

a. 1♠ p 1NT p
2♥ p 3♣ ppp
+50
b. 1♠ X 2♣ ppp
-90
c. 1♠ 2♥ X ppp
-200

a-b: +4
a-c: +6
b-c: +3
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Posted 2010-January-23, 20:35

a 2♠ -110
b 3♣ +50
c 2♥ -100

so

a-b 4IMP
a-c 0 IMP
b-c -4 IMP

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Posted 2010-January-24, 03:43

Jack playing 2001 BWS on championship setting says:

a - 3ce= -110
b - 3cw-1 50
c - 3hs-1 -100

a-b - -4
a-c - 0
b-c - 4
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Posted 2010-January-24, 17:19

2♥ X after an overcall doesnt look very likely to me:

1. West - I am not inclined to double with that shape and values

2. North has an easy raise to 3♥

3. East - I hate passing sitting under the bidder with this hand and values (texture)

I think 3♥ passed out is more normal.
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