blackshoe, on Sep 18 2009, 07:14 PM, said:
MFA, on Sep 18 2009, 12:45 PM, said:
Law 12B1 said:
Law 12C1{b} said:
I think that it is the word "innocent" which directs the law to 12C1{b}, and in particular that in order to be deemed "not innocent" a contestant has to commit a serious error, or take a wild or gambling action. Which of these has our putative player done in not asking for clarification?
I disagree that this is the logical interpretation of 12B1.
Innocent is part of the definition of damage, and an independent condition for using 12B1 at all.
12C1b is about the non-offending side adding to the damage by their own 'bad' play. This additional damage will not get compensated.
This doesn't mean that 12C1b defines or has anything to do with the term innocent.
(In fact it would be logical inconsistent to talk about part of damage in 12C1b, if 12C1b were the definition of innocent. Since there is no damage if the party is not innocent according to definition!)
The reference in 12B1 to 12C1b is solely for convenience so that the TD doesn't forget to take this into consideration.