[the hog]

I am afraid these questions are impossible to answer as we really need to know the style of weak 2 openings played by partner. As this partner is a first timer, who knows why he passed in the first place and is bidding now. This is one reason I hate this sort of Bridge. It reduces this to a straight out guessing game. Some possibilities, I guess:

Luis:
"think pd has two aces and that's why he didn't open 2h, probably something like
A, Axxxxx, xx, xxxx "
Fair comment. I'd open a weak 2 but many would not.

He has another 4 card suit - I guess some players won't open with a 2 suiter. Well it can't be S.

Whereagles:
"I see pard with something like x KQTxx xx xxxxx,"

Well then partner is a total nutter, and thank heavens I won't have to play with him again.

Rgardless, I am bidding 4H, and I am doubling 5C

Ron

[whereagles]

Why is it a problem to overcall 2♥ on x KQTxx xx xxxxx? I mean.. pard, being short in clubs, rates to have a few hearts. You're not vulnerable either, so why not a bid for the lead?.. I agree it's risky, but, unless pard comes up with a 5152 shape, it's a calculated risk. Besides, I consider it much more risky to overcall 2♥ on A Axxxxx xx xxxx than on the first hand

[Free]

Whereagles,

it's nuts to bid with x-KQTxx-xx-xxxxx because you lack trump control! Ruffing ♣ shouldn't be possible against good defense, because you'll lose all your trumps in dummy before you have a chance to ruff any ♣s, and you can't go back to your hand (yet, you have to lose a ♠ first). Give yourself ♥A and it's slightly better, but still a big risk.

[GijsH]

For this bidding I expect partner to have:

♠Ax ♥109xxxx ♦xx ♣Axx

so 2 aces but a very weak ♥suit. With ♥Axxxxx he should open 2♥, I think it is nonsense that a hand is too weak to open and too strong for a weak-2.
So I bid 3♥ now (as 4♥ does not make: good opponents with draw trumps first) and I will pas when LHO bids 4♣.
I will venture a double on 5♣ and pray partner doesn't lead a ♥, because then declarer will discard his ♠/♦ losers on dummy's high ♥s!

[whereagles]

Free, on May 28 2004, 10:51 AM, said:

it's nuts to bid with x-KQTxx-xx-xxxxx because you lack trump control!  Ruffing ♣ shouldn't be possible against good defense, because you'll lose all your trumps in dummy before you have a chance to ruff any ♣s, and you can't go back to your hand (yet, you have to lose a ♠ first).  Give yourself ♥A and it's slightly better, but still a big risk.

With x KQTxx xx xxxxx I might go down for a number, but at least they'll have a slam. With the "safer" A Axxxxx xx xxxx, I'm still going down for a number, but this time they might not even have a game on..

Not that this matters much.. in these kind of problems, it always turns out pard has an unsuitable hand for the overcall.

[Trpltrbl]

I would like to know a little more about pd's style in opening or not in first seat.
But either way I assume my pd is not totally insane, just a little since he is playing with me. I will bid 3♠, letting pd know I got some hand. Maybe, very maybe he has the perfect hand for slam. Let's try to find out.

Mike

[Fluffy]

Not many replies for the second round of bidding :-(

there it goes the full hand:

Scoring: IMP

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Sorry, the hand is nearly a joke, but I found these deal fun with all that discussion about evaluation of AQ and KJ behind the owner of the suit, I doubled 5♣ for easy -550, and asked myself what the hell did I evaluate, if both ♠Q and ♦K are in parner hands,

[the hog]

In my post on the 28th I said:
"As this partner is a first timer, who knows why he passed in the first place and is bidding now. This is one reason I hate this sort of Bridge. It reduces this to a straight out guessing game."

You full hand reinforces this comment. Who knows why partner did not open 2H. Probably the fact that he had a 4 card D suit dissuaded him from doing so. Th amazing thing is players like this fail to make an obvious opening bid, and then come into the bidding at a far more dangerous time. Ah well, at least you won't have to play with him again.
Bet you he said it was your fault.

[Free]

Weird to pass this hand, a clear 1♥ opener imo, and if you're too scared, a clear 2♥ then... He's even max and we still don't make 10 tricks!!

[mikestar]

Tough problem when partner doesn't bid it right.

It goes 1H-(1S) and you just bid whatever you use to show game vlaues in hearts whith some high cards. Now West bids 5C and it's fairly easy for partner to bid 5H with his extra trump and minimum HCP.

A shame that your par is -300, but I suspect there will be a fair number of -550's on this hand.

[Trpltrbl]

It's a clear 1♥ opener to me.
Might still get us in trouble, but that happens with these kinda hands. Can't win em all, but excuse me for keep on trying

Mike