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#1 User is offline   kfay 

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Posted 2009-June-09, 12:30

KJ97 Q AK10987 A6

all red, imps

(3C)-P-(5C)-?
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Posted 2009-June-09, 12:51

Double is cards, right? I've got plenty, and many of them are even likely to take tricks against 5♣ :D. Hopefully partner won't pull to 5♥ when it's wrong.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 12:58

Rob F, on Jun 9 2009, 01:51 PM, said:

Double is cards, right? I've got plenty, and many of them are even likely to take tricks against 5♣ :D. Hopefully partner won't pull to 5♥ when it's wrong.

If he pulls, 6♦ and pray?
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Posted 2009-June-09, 16:19

No happy about dbl with a singleton major. I think I pass. It is close, though, and a 5♦ overcall is in the picture, too.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 17:18

I think i pray one round earlier and one level lower than Ken

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Posted 2009-June-09, 17:34

5♦ here. I would chance a double with 4261 but not this shape if I can help it.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 17:51

5♦.

Usually I prefer to double (not takeout!) with these hands, and double is right whenever nobody makes anything at the five level.

But here it seems that 5♦ will often make (partner has 0-1 clubs and hopefully a few diamonds), that even 6♦ will often make opposite just the ♠A and a few diamonds (although we won't always bid it), and, on a bad day, they might even make 5♣X (someone is void in diamonds).
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Posted 2009-June-09, 21:15

5♦ for me too
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Posted 2009-June-10, 01:55

5D but not liking it. If RHO bid 5C to make at red, it's likely that he'll have short diamonds so partner should have some length in diamonds (since RHO might have bid 3NT with more diamonds). There's even a chance that we can make 5D if RHO had bid 5C to make (short clubs) and leading spades up towards your hand against RHO's stronger hand.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 10:50

5♦. No reason to dislike this as much as many seem to do. There's a reasonable chance partner will raise when slam is good.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 14:37

skaeran, on Jun 10 2009, 11:50 AM, said:

5♦. No reason to dislike this as much as many seem to do. There's a reasonable chance partner will raise when slam is good.

Agreed... this is easy, I think. I used to be worried in these situations: now I bid cheerfully, and I like my results on these hands... not that they are uniformly good :)
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