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#1 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2009-June-13, 16:59

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Your lead of Q wins the trick, partner playing an encouraging two and declarer the four. And now?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-13, 19:30

9, what if declarer has Jxxx?

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-June-13, 21:06

Hanoi5, on Jun 13 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

9, what if declarer has Jxxx?

Although you'll block the suit leading low if declarer has Jxx, and you need to run partner's 5 heart tricks before letting them in.
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Posted 2009-June-13, 21:21

Rob F, on Jun 13 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

Hanoi5, on Jun 13 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

9, what if declarer has Jxxx?

Although you'll block the suit leading low if declarer has Jxx, and you need to run partner's 5 heart tricks before letting them in.

Too late, the gods of bridge already blocked the suit in that case.
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Posted 2009-June-14, 02:34

We will not take the first five tricks in heart.

So we need one more trick and 4 heart tricks. When we hold ourself to 3 heart tricks by continuing the suit, we need two outside tricks.

I switch to a diamond.
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Posted 2009-June-14, 14:39

Suppose I told you that partner has K and a certain side-suit trick. Can you see any problem with taking all of your tricks?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-14, 17:33

If declarer is ax jxxx qx kqxxx pd is toast if we play a heart at t2
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Posted 2009-June-15, 16:11

xcurt, on Jun 15 2009, 12:33 AM, said:

If declarer is ax jxxx qx kqxxx pd is toast if we play a heart at t2

That's true, though the same hand without Q would be more likely given the initial pass. I hadn't noticed that possibility.

One the actual hand, partner had A and K (plus some minor-suit queen presumably - I've lost the hand records). There's a danger in playing a second heart even opposite this. Partner thinks you have the jack and declarer has the ace. If you continue with 10, partner will expect you to have QJ10(x); if you continue with 9 he will think you have QJ109. In either case he is quite likely to play low, trying to avoid blocking the suit, to keep communications fluid, or just out of habit.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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