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All the intangibles Table feel, 3rd seat, minors

Poll: You... (47 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Pass (6 votes [12.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.77%

  2. 1 club, no need to get weird (20 votes [42.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.55%

  3. 1 diamond, planning to rebid clubs cheaply (6 votes [12.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.77%

  4. 3 clubs (6 votes [12.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.77%

  5. 3 diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 4 clubs (2 votes [4.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.26%

  7. 4 diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. 4 No Trump (3 votes [6.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.38%

  9. 5 clubs (1 votes [2.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.13%

  10. Some psyche (2 votes [4.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.26%

  11. other (1 votes [2.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.13%

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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2009-April-28, 23:12

Not vulnerable, 3rd seat, playing in the flight B GNTs (Not experts in opposition, but not complete scrubs, either). RHO has thought and fumbled with his bid box before eventually passing - not a real break in tempo, but enough that you noticed it, and think LHO might have also.

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Posted 2009-April-28, 23:25

1c...risky
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Posted 2009-April-29, 00:47

1C and no.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 00:56

Against a moderate team, 1. Against a good team, 4. I'd do that regardless of what RHO does.

Preempting has more to gain after RHO fidgets, but not just for the obvious reason. The UI constrains LHO's actions, and that will have more effect after a high-level opening than after 1.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 00:59

As the good players choose 1 or 4 Club, my choice of 4 NT must be wrong. But I will still give it a try at fav.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 01:58

Voted 5.

1 or 4 is the alternative, but I dont like 4.

When I have a good 6-card suit, and a shaky 5-card suit, I take preference myself.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 02:31

I'll open 3.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 07:09

1, but I do like the idea of 4.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 07:19

I'm not opening 4C on a broken 6-card suit, it's 1C or 3C for me.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 09:52

Anything but 1 is far too creative and random for my tastes when I have an utterly normal bid to make.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 10:16

Hi,

1D.

But if I have 4NT av., than the hand looks like a 4NT bid.

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Posted 2009-April-29, 10:48

1 looks perfectly normal (and sane) to me.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 11:17

1C. We could be sacrificing in 5D afaic.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 11:26

Some of these votes are really sick.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 11:36

jdonn, on Apr 29 2009, 11:52 AM, said:

Anything but 1 is far too creative and random for my tastes when I have an utterly normal bid to make.

agree, although the thought of opening 3 did cross my mind
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Posted 2009-April-29, 13:00

I suspect I would usually open the normal 1C, but I have to admit that in some circumstances it might be difficult for me to resist the (admittedly somewhat sick) appeal of Pass. I find none of the other choices even remotely appealling.

The case for Pass: other than 1D (which is REALLY not my style), Pass is the only call that makes it likely you will get a chance to show both of your suits (via a later unusual notrump) without having to take a massively unilateral action.

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Posted 2009-April-29, 13:09

You've told us how good the opponents are, but not how good you are (apart from that you're playing in the B flight).

This is the sort of hand where I'd expect the experts to take the normal action - 1. There's no need for them to do anything outlandish. They expect to win by force.

I, OTOH, am looking for opportunities to go off-road. Accordingly, I'll try 3.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 14:12

fred, on Apr 29 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

(...) a massively unilateral action.

What's wrong with that? We do it all the time when we preempt.

I wouldn't dream of opening 3+ opposing a non-passed pard, but opposite a passed pard and this weakish a hand, chances for a game are minimal. Why not wreaking some havoc?
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Posted 2009-April-29, 14:23

Call the director to point out the hitch. The rules call for that.

Then, open 1 like a normal person. The hitch will affect the opponents' options whether you open 1 or something else. Why take a risky action that may be bad rather than the normal action? You already have protection.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 14:25

whereagles, on Apr 29 2009, 03:12 PM, said:

fred, on Apr 29 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

(...) a massively unilateral action.

What's wrong with that? We do it all the time when we preempt.

Usually, we (as Philip Seymour Hoffman said in 'Charlie Wilson's War,' "Me and like 3 other guys," at least) don't have a 5-card side suit when we preempt.
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