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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2008-December-20, 10:00

Matchpoints, All Red, Third Seat

KJ AJxxx J9 KT65

1 - (3) - ?

Partner is good, but tendencies about reopening doubles are undiscussed.
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Posted 2008-December-20, 10:37

3H. Natural and forcing. I may be able to take 800 out of 3C but can imagine only 500, and I expect to get a good score from the game I'm likely to make.
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Posted 2008-December-20, 11:42

My pointed suit length looks good for a pass here since we'll rate to pick up more tricks in those suits.

If partner reopens with double I expect 800 and I'm willing to accept 1100 opposite a possible slam.

If he rebids diamonds now I've got a bit of a problem. 3NT, 4, and slam are all possibilities and I've got too much catching up to do to figure this out. I don't know what I'd do but we're not there yet.
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Posted 2008-December-20, 11:46

Pass. Would bid 3NT red against white.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-December-20, 12:31

3NT. Practical. Going for a penalty might work and is a fair shot, but I prefer a safer approach to the problem.
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Posted 2008-December-20, 12:40

3NT for me too. If pard has something like

Qxx
xx
AKQxxx
xx

he's gonna be quite stuck for a bid after 3.
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Posted 2008-December-20, 16:28

3NT for me.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-December-20, 18:34

I like 3NT, more because of the bad hearts than the good clubs. Pass could work but I don't want to risk if partner can't reopen.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 01:40

Pass, I think it is very likely that this will result in +800 for our side. It is also possible that partner won't reopen because he is so weak that we can't make game, in which case I am happy to defend.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 03:11

3H. I'm not risking a pass on hands similar to the one posted by Nuno.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 03:52

Many options:

3NT: Is our most likely spot, if we want to play the hand.
3: describes our hand, and might often still get us to 3nt if that i where we belong.
Double: Places us extremely well, if partner bids at the three level. Disaster if partner bids 4
Pass: My choice. Not that I believe it will nescesarily get us to the right spot, but it will hardly ever be a disaster. Also caters to light opening hands from partner.

Edit: 3NT at Imps.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 04:29

It's matchpoints, always play 3NT :)
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Posted 2008-December-21, 04:50

3NT for me. Yes, we might miss a superior 4, and yes, we are giving up on penalising the opps. But it seems to be the bid which is most likely to get us to a sensible spot without risking a mishap.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 10:52

If partner strong enough to reopen The times we make 3Nt minus the time we fail 3Nt will probably be higher than the times we can nail them for 800.

If partner isnt strong enough then 3Nt will still make more then 50%.

So 3Nt seems better than passing. My Heart suit isnt good enough for 3H (partner will often raise me with Hx)

X might work but i doubt its better than 3Nt.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 14:07

benlessard, on Dec 21 2008, 09:52 AM, said:

X might work but i doubt its better than 3Nt.

I hope you are talking about a balancing X from partner, not a direct double from yourself, since partner is likely to bid after a negative X.
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Posted 2008-December-21, 17:10

If 3 is passed around to partner and he has a singleton, do you think he needs extra values to reopen? If I were sure that passing only risked all-pass opposite a minimum with a doubleton, I'd probably take the risk.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-December-22, 01:42

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I hope you are talking about a balancing X from partner, not a direct double from yourself, since partner is likely to bid ♠ after a negative X.
No, remove the T of clubs and ill make a neg double for sure. I dont mind if partner bid 3S since ill bid 3Nt wich show doubt of strain without 4S.

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If 3♣ is passed around to partner and he has a singleton, do you think he needs extra values to reopen?
Of course, balancing at the 3 level without extra values is a sure way to lose imps in the long run.
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Posted 2008-December-22, 02:41

benlessard, on Dec 22 2008, 12:42 AM, said:

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I hope you are talking about a balancing X from partner, not a direct double from yourself, since partner is likely to bid ♠ after a negative X.
No, remove the T of clubs and ill make a neg double for sure. I dont mind if partner bid 3S since ill bid 3Nt wich show doubt of strain without 4S.



And when partner bids 4 directly, expecting you to actually have your bid?
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Posted 2008-December-22, 02:45

gnasher, on Dec 22 2008, 01:10 AM, said:

If 3 is passed around to partner and he has a singleton, do you think he needs extra values to reopen?  If I were sure that passing only risked all-pass opposite a minimum with a doubleton, I'd probably take the risk.

It depends on what minimum is.

Facing some of my minimum hands, there will be no play for 3NT
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Posted 2008-December-22, 11:22

I hate to say this, but I am a passer. Partner should have a singleton or void in clubs in this auction, and unless partner has a DEAD minimum, there should be a double on the table. At IMPs this is a clear pass, but at matchpoints I reluctantly pass :). (Otherwise I bid 3NT, b/c as Free said: "It's matchpoints, always play 3NT")
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