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#1 User is offline   ArcLight 

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Posted 2008-December-18, 07:50

IMPS - good pard
1 - White on Red, You hold, LHO deals

S: A
H: A T 9 x x x
D: x x
C: T 9 x x


p 1C (1D) 1H
2S p p ?

What do you do?
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2 - all White, LHO deals

S: Q J 9 x x
H: K
C: A Q x
D: Q x x x

(4H) - p - p -?

What do you do?

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3 - red vs white, you deal

S: Q T 9 x x x
H: Q x
D: x x
C: Q x x


Do you open 2 Spades?

What do you do if you did not bid and the bidding goes:


p - 1C - (1D) - 1H
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Posted 2008-December-18, 08:03

1. 3
2. Pass
3. Pass and 1
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Posted 2008-December-18, 08:16

I'll take a shot.

3
Pass
Pass/Pass
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Posted 2008-December-18, 09:01

1. 3
2. Pass and feel icky about it.
3. No, I wouldn't preeempt. 1 now.
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Posted 2008-December-18, 09:10

1) Double, yeck.
2) Pass, just a little bit too weak.
3) Pass (preempting 2 on this hand is terrible!) and now 1. Bid spades when you can, it works!
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Posted 2008-December-18, 10:08

1) double, 3 or 3, neither seems like a big mistake to me. I like 3 the most.
2) double, second choice is 4, we are too strong to pass.
3) whatever you do be consequent, not strong enough for 2?, then you are not strong enough for bidding anything now.
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Posted 2008-December-18, 10:50

1. Double.
2. Pass.
3. Pass followed by 1S.

My first instinct on 1 was to bid 3C but I don't see how that could be better than double. If partner converts we have two aces. It's very unlikely that partner pulls to 3H but maybe he'll bid 2NT and then we can bid 3H.

I think 2 and 3 are completely clear.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-December-18, 14:36

1) Double.
2) Double.
3) Pass, then 1.

Agree with Han about (1) - except that doubling then bidding 3 sounds forcing?

If the K was somewhere else, bidding on (2) would be a WTP. The actual hand is much closer, but I still bid.

(3) is a WTP. Passing then bidding 2, as apparently happened in (1) is silly. If you are worth 2 (you aren't, R/W), then open it 2. But the guidelines for a R/W 2 bid are not the same as the guidelines for a 1 overcall, so I don't understand a second Pass here.
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Posted 2008-December-18, 16:30

Fluffy, on Dec 18 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

3) whatever you do be consequent, not strong enough for 2?, then you are not strong enough for bidding anything now.

I think exactly the opposite (assuming you meant 'consistent' ;)). If your system doesn't let you bid spades on either round then it's ineffective, you should be able to bid one time or the other.
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Posted 2008-December-18, 16:54

1. I will bid 3 clubs - my only goal is to push them into 3S.
2. Pass
3. Pass - I don't want to suggest to partner that I want him to keep bidding.
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Posted 2008-December-18, 17:13

ArcLight, on Dec 18 2008, 08:50 AM, said:

IMPS - good pard
1 - White on Red, You hold, LHO deals

S: A
H: A T 9 x x x
D: x x
C: T 9 x x


p 1C (1D) 1H
2S p p ?

What do you do?
=============================

2 - all White, LHO deals

S: Q J 9 x x
H: K
C: A Q x
D: Q x x x

(4H) - p - p -?

What do you do?

=================================

3 - red vs white, you deal

S: Q T 9 x x x
H: Q x
D: x x
C: Q x x


Do you open 2 Spades?

What do you do if you did not bid and the bidding goes:


p - 1C - (1D) - 1H
?

1) double
2) pass but close
3) never 2s...now one spade

I thought 1 and 3 were easy, 2 was tough
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Posted 2008-December-18, 22:19

3C
Pass
Pass and 1S
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Posted 2008-December-18, 23:26

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2. Pass


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Posted 2008-December-19, 02:48

1. 3
2. X
3. pass and 2 . If this is a fit jump in your methods, 1 . To me 2 is a weak two, which could not be open in first seat, so normally too weak, or with a four card side major, or with wrong honour location.
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