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Posted 2008-August-23, 08:31

hello;
I am trying to learn bridge and I downloaded a program which teaches bridge.
At bidding section an example confused me and I would like to hear your opinion;

I am South and my hand is:

♠73
♥K982
♣AQ763
♦854

North opens the bidding with 1♣
East passes.
And my turn

According to the program It is suppose to be 1♥

I am wondering why not 2♥ since I have 10TP which is enough for 2-level bid
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Posted 2008-August-23, 08:56

sorry I forgot bidding system is called Modern Standard American with 5 card majors
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Posted 2008-August-23, 08:58

Bidding space is very limited, so you try not to waste it.
1♥ takes away less bidding space than 2♥.
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Posted 2008-August-23, 09:01

The requirement for 10 points for bidding at the two level is only when you're FORCED to bid at the two level (like partner opens 1♠ but you have diamonds). Otherwise, since you still CAN bid at the 1-level, a JUMP to the two-level should show more points.
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Posted 2008-August-23, 09:03

1♥ is forcing; opener cannot pass. So you start with 1♥ which allows you to bid again without getting too high. Suppose for example opener rebids 1♠. Now you can bid 2♣ or 3♣ (I think 2♣ is enough) to show hearts+clubs and not enough values to force to game.
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Posted 2008-August-23, 09:11

Not only should you not jump when you have a forcing non-jump bid, but many people now play 2♥ here as *weak*, because actual hands where you'd want to jump shift are so very rare.

Even if you are using Strong Jump Shifts here, they show...

-a Game forcing hand (13+ hcp), and
-a very good suit.

The 10 points is for when you have to bid 2. For example, if partner opened 1♠, you could safely bid 2♣. Change the king of hearts to the jack, and over 1♠ you'd have to say 1NT.
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Posted 2008-August-23, 11:55

thanks everyone
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Posted 2008-August-23, 13:07

Here's some stuff about strong jump shifts.

http://www.prairiene...ge/b_jshift.htm

When you make a strong jump shift your hand should be at least slam invitational. Of course slam isn't forced as opener may have a non-fitting minimum or you may later discover that you're missing 2 key cards, but game is 100% forced.
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Posted 2008-August-24, 01:52

After you bid 1♥, the continuation you want to hear is 2♥ by partner, showing a four card heart suit and 13-15 points. Now you can invite partner to game by bidding 3♥.

With only 13 points partner passes, whereas with 15 points partner accepts the invite and bids the 4♥ game.
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Posted 2008-August-25, 07:52

Hi,

Simple advice: Try to avoid jumping around, unless you
play special agreements, if you never make a jump
response in a new suit after a suit opening opening from
partner, you will be more often right than wrong.

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