[FrancesHinden]

What do you think 1S - 1NT - 3NT means?

If you open 1NT on all 5332s in range, then 2NT is 18-19 balanced and 3NT is free. That means you can use it for a good 6322 / 7222 with running (ish) spades, and so partner can't have that hand.

[awm]

Here's the full hand:

Scoring: IMP

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At one table, south passed the 3♠ rebid. This made three (losing two spades, one diamond, one heart) when east did not find the diamond lead to score up partner's ruff. Making 4♠ requires misdefense (you need to pitch a heart on a club before the ♥A is knocked out, but if you try to do this before pulling trumps then your only hand entry is diamonds and opponents can probably score a diamond ruff).

At the other table, south bid 3NT. This contract doesn't have all that much going for it single-dummy but is strangely cold on the lie of the cards.

[Codo]

Maybe I asked it the wrong way, so I retry:

For all the convinced 4 Spade bidders:

What are the hands where you bid 3 NT with?

[ArtK78]

Codo, on Jul 9 2008, 01:32 PM, said:

Maybe I asked it the wrong way, so I retry:

For all the convinced 4 Spade bidders:

What are the hands where you bid 3 NT with?

How about something like:

x
QJTx
QJTx
QJTx

or better.

In other words, a hand that offers little or no help in a spade contract but is likely to produce 9 tricks in notrump.

[mikeh]

I would have rebid 2N not 3♠. Yes, that 6th spade may never be shown, but I have a balanced hand (with a potential source of tricks) a stopper in every suit and this IS a hand on which, often, 9 tricks will be easier than 10.

3♠ stresses spades as the probable game, 2N stresses notrump. This North hand looks more like the latter than the former. BTW, just for any walruses out there, 2N is not an overbid.

I write this without caring whether, on the hand, 3N or 4♠ is the better contract.

As for the hand I would like, in order to bid 3N over 3♠:

1. I'd like a second spade, preferably an honour, if I were bidding on marginal values

2. I'd like a maximum if bidding on a misfit.... x QJ10x QJ10x KJ10x looks like 3N to me...ok, I'd do it on other soft maximums as well.

[benlessard]

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At the other table, south bid 3NT. This contract doesn't have all that much going for it single-dummy but is strangely cold on the lie of the cards.

What wrong with 3Nt it seems like a pretty good contract to me.

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How about something like:

x
QJTx
QJTx
QJTx

or better.

This one is funny

[firmit]

"2/1 Without special agreements" - did not see that.
No excuse though - I am glad every time I am wrong - it means that I am still not old and stubborn

[Gerben42]

I would pass and hope partner doesn't go down.

[gnasher]

benlessard, on Jul 11 2008, 06:59 AM, said:

What wrong with 3Nt it seems like a pretty good contract to me.

Me too. It's even better if played by North, which is further evidence that 3♠ was the wrong bid.

[benlessard]

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It's even better if played by North, which is further evidence that 3♠ was the wrong bid.

Its tough when the bidding start 1S----1Nt

I woudl have rebid 2Nt but i dont think 3S is that bad. I think however that after 3S 3Nt is the proper bid. It has nothing to do with the spades holding. Give me 2 aces and a S void and ill bid 4S. On some other hand ill have 2S and still bid 3Nt.


JTxx
Kjxx
Kxxx

are soft holding

[cranebill]

1 spade 1 NT 3 spades

What does 3 spades promise (it matters not, that 2NT is a better bid, you can argue that point amongst yourselves), I am merely answering the question as the poster set it to us.

If as I perceive it, 3 spades promises a solid self supporting solid suit (min of 6 cards, possibly missing one honour card and a very good 15 hcp or more) usually if 15 I may have a singleton if I dont have an extra 2 or 3 hcp for the bid

Why is x in spades not sufficient support?

[ArtK78]

The definition of a jump rebid of 3♠ is a six-card spade suit and an above-average opening hand - typically 16-18 HCP. The spade suit should be good, but it does not have to be anything close to self-sufficient. That is why a singleton small spade is not sufficient support at the slam level (it may be sufficient at the game level, as you are willing to lose 2 or 3 trump tricks as long as you make 10 tricks).

This hand is a 3♠ rebid:

KQ9xxx
KQx
AQx
x

4 losers by LTC, which places the hand in the maximum category, but the spade suit is not great. If the spade suit were KQT9xx, the hand would be a great 3♠ bid.