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worth an overcall? pass or bid?

#1 User is offline   ArcLight 

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Posted 2008-June-15, 10:39

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1. How should this be bid, playing 2/1?
(would you open unfavorable with Westst hand in 3rd seat? - If so what?)


2. Lets say the bidding goes: pass - pass - pass - 1Club
Would you overcall as East?


p - p -p - 1C
1D - 1S - 3D - ?

3. Was 3 Diamonds a good bid at unfavorable vulnerability?

4. What would you do as North over 3 Diamonds?


(I corrected 2S to 1S, sorry)
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Posted 2008-June-15, 10:46

OK with 1. What's 2? This is a mystery (and probably a typo). I assume the auction goes 1 (3) - ?

Over 3 I pass and bid 3 over a reopening double.
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Posted 2008-June-15, 10:55

P P P 1
1 1 3 P
P P

is how I would bid in all seats. South is close to reopening with a double but I just believe he has enough. I mean at imps what is he really fighting for?
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Posted 2008-June-15, 13:28

Wow. I could imagine this one being bid several different ways, always with every party being at least reasonable.

1-1-X-XX-
P-P/2-3-P/3-all pass

1-2-3-3-all pass

P-2-P-2NT-
P-whatever-P-3/P

P-P-1-P-
1NT-all pass

P-P-1-P-
1NT-P-2-P-
3-all pass

P-P-1-2-
2-2-P-P/3/4-
all pass

P-P-P-1-
1-1-2/3-X/P-
P-P/2/3-all pass

P-P-P-1-
1-2-3-3-all pass

Plus, even more variations.
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Posted 2008-June-15, 13:55

jdonn, on Jun 15 2008, 11:55 AM, said:

P P P 1
1 1 3 P
P P

is how I would bid in all seats. South is close to reopening with a double but I just believe he has enough. I mean at imps what is he really fighting for?

Agree with josh except I don't think south is close to a reopening X. Opening the west hand r/w in third seat is too much.
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Posted 2008-June-15, 14:42

my auction would go
P---P-----P--1C
1D-1S--3D--P
P---X----P--3S
All pass

NV in imps, I'd like to fight for the partscore so I would make the reopening X of 3D. I would definitely not open 1H in 3rd seat unfav.

Edit: Thinking it about a bit more, probably influenced by seeing all 4 hands, I think I'd pass 3D out. With a more shapely hand partner would probably act, and it's likely we'd hit a misfit if we x. So I'll happily take the vul undertricks
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Posted 2008-June-15, 15:55

Jlall, on Jun 15 2008, 02:55 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jun 15 2008, 11:55 AM, said:

P P P 1
1 1 3 P
P P

is how I would bid in all seats. South is close to reopening with a double but I just believe he has enough. I mean at imps what is he really fighting for?

Agree with josh except I don't think south is close to a reopening X. Opening the west hand r/w in third seat is too much.

Realized a typo, maybe you could tell but obviously I meant I just DON'T believe he has enough.
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Posted 2008-June-15, 21:01

Agree that the south hand has an easy pass of 3D. +100, +140, and +200 are all the same to a first approximation at IMPs. -670 is definitely not the same at IMPs.

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Posted 2008-June-16, 00:59

#2 I am fine with 1D, but passing is not
the worst choice either
#3 3D was fine
#4 Pass, 3S is not an option unless 1S showed
a 5 carder, which some play, but this is
certainly not standard

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