[ArtK78]

Very simple hand.

Scoring: XIMP

P - 1♦
?

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Partner knows that you could not open the bidding in a light opening system (one of a suit is 10+HCP, 1NT is 10-12, weak 2 bids are 3-9 and possibly a 5 card suit). You do not play 2 suited preempts.

Do you respond? If you do, which major do you bid?

[mikeh]

1♠

Hoping for a raise or a notrump rebid, so that, in the latter case, I can show hearts, non-forcing (including over 2N)

[karlson]

Seems clear enough to try to show both suits. 1♠ for me too.

[Apollo81]

1♠ wtp

[neilkaz]

5-5 come alive..1♠ for me.

[whereagles]

Usually I would pass, but, given I can bid 1♠ without gettting pard too excited, I can try that.

[Echognome]

The problem with 1♠ is what do you bid over 2m? I presume you pass over either (maybe give a false preference over 2♣ to 2♦). I have polled this hand before and have heard a case given to bid 1♥ (catching many 5-3 ♥ fits along with a 5-4 ♠ fit, but losing a 5-3 ♠ fit). Of course if we know partner is going to rebid 1NT or 2NT (and have methods to offer partner a choice of 3M only) then 1♠ stands out a clear mile. I think it's difficult to judge what partner's rebid is going to be given our minor suit lengths (partner's most likely rebid in a vacuum will be a weak NT).

All that being said, I imagine I would bid 1♠ playing with a unknown expert partner. Playing with my regular partners I have reverse flannery with one (and would use that) and would bid an easy 1♠ with the other (since the 1♦ call is limited).

[gwnn]

mikeh, on May 13 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

1♠

Hoping for a raise or a notrump rebid, so that, in the latter case, I can show hearts, non-forcing (including over 2N)

100% agree. I sort of hate it how Mike seems to make threads uninteresting if he replies first.

(jk)

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

If I bid, it would be 1S, because I will be able to show my 2nd suit
most of the time.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[skjaeran]

mikeh, on May 13 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

1♠

Hoping for a raise or a notrump rebid, so that, in the latter case, I can show hearts, non-forcing (including over 2N)

Agree. I'm not that pessimistic that I expect partner to rebid 2-3♣....

[jdonn]

skaeran, on May 13 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

mikeh, on May 13 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

1♠

Hoping for a raise or a notrump rebid, so that, in the latter case, I can show hearts, non-forcing (including over 2N)

Agree. I'm not that pessimistic that I expect partner to rebid 2-3♣....

Or 2♦ right? Now you could have a nine card heart fit. Meanwhile over 1♥, as long as partner doesn't skip four spades as I tend not to then the only loss is a 5-3 spade fit when your spades are Txxxx. I can much more easily live with that then the nasty problems any time partner rebids either minor. 1♥ for me.

I see the original post said "do you respond?" I assume that was an attempt at humor

[Halo]

Pass, second choice 1♥.

I'll try to explain to partner why I missed out on showing my two suiter.

[655321]

I would bid 1♠, but I can see the merits of a 1♥ response too.

Pass is not sensible IMO.

[mikeh]

jdonn, on May 13 2008, 04:42 PM, said:

skaeran, on May 13 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

mikeh, on May 13 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

1♠

Hoping for a raise or a notrump rebid, so that, in the latter case, I can show hearts, non-forcing (including over 2N)

Agree. I'm not that pessimistic that I expect partner to rebid 2-3♣....

Or 2♦ right? Now you could have a nine card heart fit. Meanwhile over 1♥, as long as partner doesn't skip four spades as I tend not to then the only loss is a 5-3 spade fit when your spades are Txxxx. I can much more easily live with that then the nasty problems any time partner rebids either minor. 1♥ for me.

I see the original post said "do you respond?" I assume that was an attempt at humor

I think the choice between 1♥ and 1♠ is close.

I think that 1♠ wins or breaks even (often winning) whenever opener rebids any number of notrump.

I can always find a 5-4 heart fit in this situation, but it is not clear that we can find a 5=4 spade fit if he rebids 2N (over a 1♥ response). It depends on methods, but my methods make it dangerous... I can transfer to spades, but he only accepts with 4, and he will have to bid 3N with fewer... just what I cannot afford to hear. And after 1N, I can't back into a 5-3 spade fit... I am going to have to pull to 2♥ which may be 5-2.

Neither major wins when he rebids either minor.

1♥ wins when he raises hearts and couldn't rebid notrump or reverse into hearts over 1♠.

Those who rebid 1N on 1=3=5=4 or 1=4=4=4 hands will be even better positioned than I am after 1♠... I don't bid that way, so I am facing the prospect of having to make a decision as to which minor I die in after 1♦ then 2♣!

The good news is that I hold 3 hcp and both opps are silent... maybe rho has a flat 14 and lho a flat 11, but the odds favour partner having a good hand.

So, 1♥ wins if he is going to rebid 2 minor with 4 hearts or has a hand on which he would raise hearts on a 3 card suit and cannot rebid 1N, while 1♠ either breaks even or wins most of the other times. I am discounting the hands on which he would pass 1♥ and bid to a horrible spot over 1♠, because the silence of the lambs makes that improbable.

[the hog]

Pass for me. This is not a dummy I want to put down if pd bids 3NT, or a gf 2NT.

[kenrexford]

I've been quickly convinced by the 1♥ argument.

[pclayton]

Shrug.

I can see good arguments for 1H and 1S. There was an 'Assign the Blame' in a very old Bridge World where responder held a weak major 55 and opener was 0454 and the heart fit was completely buried. One of the 'solutions' was to bid hearts 1st. Hand like this sprung Reverse Flannery and 1 minor - 1S - 2 minor (not reverse) - 2H as NF.

I'd probably bid 1H to show everyone how clever I was

Playing RF this isn't really a problem.

[ArtK78]

At the (virtual) table, I chose 1♥. Like some of the posters, I figured that if partner had 4 spades, he would bid them, and the only real risk that I was running was missing a weak 5-3 spade fit.

Little did I know the double cross that was facing me:

Scoring: XIMP

P - 1♦
1♥ - 3NT

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Pard decided rather than bid his 4 card spade suit, he would just shoot out 3NT at matchpoints.

On a club lead, he had 8 tricks. Spades were 2-2, so 4♠ claims (the ♣ A was onside).

I don't like my pard's bid, and he didn't like mine. So I ask you, who is to blame?

[helene_t]

Partner is to blame IMHO. 3NT is a gamble, maybe not an unreasonable one but when making such a bid he should be prepared to taking the blame.

[gnasher]

I think 3NT most unreasonable.