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High level action Junior Camrose problem

Poll: Your call? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (10 votes [43.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.48%

  2. Double (8 votes [34.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

  3. 5S (5 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   paulg 

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Posted 2008-February-19, 06:50

Scoring: IMP

(Pass) - 1♥ - (5♦) - ?

You are playing 5-card majors and a strong 1NT.

Feel like bidding?
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Posted 2008-February-19, 06:55

Pass.
Double is possible, but I am not bidding 5♠.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 07:42

I hate this bid, but I'm going to do it anyway: 5♠.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 07:52

Double. Don't think this is super-close. Yes, I suck at making these kinds of decisions.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 08:04

I'd just pass.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 08:25

I'd just pass but I half expect someone to go run a few simulations revealing 5♠ as the percentage call.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 08:32

5S.

I bid my suit, ... I got double for -4 before.

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Posted 2008-February-19, 08:32

Mark me down as a regretful pass:

My concern with 5♠ is the following:

1. It's entirely possible that 5♠ is a great contract for our side
2. It's far from clear that a 5♠ call will allow us to declare good 5♠ contract rather than a bad 6♠ contract
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Posted 2008-February-19, 08:33

pass

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Posted 2008-February-19, 08:43

because it's a bidders game and you feel it :)
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Posted 2008-February-19, 09:00

P_Marlowe, on Feb 19 2008, 11:32 PM, said:

5S.

I bid my suit, ... I got double for -4 before.

With kind regards
Marlowe

maybe there is a correlation between this bid and this result?

More serious, my expected result of a 5 Spade bid would be -1 or 2 in 5, 6 or 7 Spade.

I would like some kind of "Stop" 5 Spade to show this hand, but maybe they won't allow me to use this bid.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 11:57

I'd double in this event because I figure they are not exactly being sound here. Pass is the actually correct bid.
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Posted 2008-February-19, 12:48

Pass.

Maybe I should double since Hrothgar is probably sitting there with 7 diamonds and KQTx of spades :P
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Posted 2008-February-19, 13:29

I want to bid spades but I won't.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
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Posted 2008-February-19, 14:22

Pass you just can't afford to bid with crap at this level.

When its right to bid 5♠ partner may well raise to 6♠.
Wayne Burrows

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Posted 2008-February-20, 03:44

You could not go far wrong on this problem as partner held:

♠ 10xx
♥ AQT9xx
♦ Jx
♣ Ax

and both 5♦ and 5♠ made 10 tricks.

I'll let Josh discuss sound bidding with East, as she had

♠ K
♥ x
♦ AQT987654
♣ Kx

for her 5♦ bid - one of two 9-card suits over the weekend.

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Posted 2008-February-20, 08:42

Wow this problem is insane. Without looking at any responses I double... first inclination and I'm trying to stick with those these days.
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Posted 2008-February-20, 09:53

pclayton, on Feb 19 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

Pass.

Maybe I should double since Hrothgar is probably sitting there with 7 diamonds and KQTx of spades :)

Close. 6-5 it was, we just saw in the 7420 thread :) OK, that was an opening.
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Posted 2008-February-20, 19:00

kfay, on Feb 21 2008, 03:42 AM, said:

Wow this problem is insane. Without looking at any responses I double... first inclination and I'm trying to stick with those these days.

Double doesn't seem right with a 7-count. Double unless pure penalties should tell partner that you think the hand belongs to our side. I don't think you can know that with minimum values and no fit for partner and no knowledge of whether partner has a fit for our suit.
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Posted 2008-February-20, 20:36

cardsharp, on Feb 19 2008, 07:50 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

(Pass) - 1♥ - (5♦) - ?

You are playing 5-card majors and a strong 1NT.

Feel like bidding?

I had a similiar hand on BBO except pd opened 1♠ and i had 6+♥ with singleton ♠ and i xed. Declarer went -3.
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