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#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2007-August-26, 16:37


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     1♥    Pass  3♠
 Pass  4♥    Pass  Pass
 Pass  
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Posted 2007-August-26, 17:05

3♠ is an overbid - it would be an acceptable overbid if either one of your other cards were a heart.
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Posted 2007-August-26, 17:12

Never splinter with 3-card support. Unless your hand is exceptionally good (like a void and two aces) a splinter over 1M should have 10-12 high-card points.

So 3♠ was a huge overbid.
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Posted 2007-August-27, 01:06

1♥-1NT
2♣-3♥
4♥

or better (according to my taste)
1NT-2NT
3♥-4♥

alternatively
1♥-2♥
3NT-4♥
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Posted 2007-August-27, 02:53

Hi,

3H.

As far as I know, GIB does not play
forcing NT, so going via 1 NT to differentiate
between 3 and 4 card support does not work
well with GIB.

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Posted 2007-August-27, 02:59

Start with 1♥-2♥, constructive raise... wtp?
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Posted 2007-August-27, 03:06

Free, on Aug 27 2007, 03:59 AM, said:

Start with 1♥-2♥, constructive raise... wtp?

GIB does not play 2/1 game force?

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Posted 2007-August-27, 03:48

Yes it does...
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Posted 2007-August-27, 07:21

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Start with 1♥-2♥, constructive raise... wtp?


1M - 2 M = 6 -9 I think my hand was worth a better bid

I also thought if they have spades it would sort of force them to game and I think the chances they have the HCP for game is unlikey, is this thinking wrong
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Posted 2007-August-27, 07:36

sceptic, on Aug 27 2007, 08:21 AM, said:

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Start with 1♥-2♥, constructive raise... wtp?


1M - 2 M = 6 -9 I think my hand was worth a better bid

I also thought if they have spades it would sort of force them to game and I think the chances they have the HCP for game is unlikey, is this thinking wrong

Hi,

assuming that GIB plays 2/1, the single raise shows +7-10.
Making this bid is a slight underbid, and in my opinion you
should go via forcing NT followed by bidding 3H to show a limit
raise with 3 trumps.

I am not 100% sure, if GIB plays 2/1 or SAYC, but if Free says
GIB plays 2/1 I would tend to believe him.

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Posted 2007-August-27, 07:48

sceptic, on Aug 27 2007, 08:21 AM, said:

I also thought if they have spades it would sort of force them to game and I think the chances they have the HCP for game is unlikey, is this thinking wrong

Yes, it is.

You are right however in that your side (most likely) "owns" this hand. So -- Don't misrepresent your assets to partner in this situation.

Describe your hand as best you can. A splinter, after all, is a slam try; partner cannot possibly stop below 4♥ after you splinter in any scenario. You don't have a good enough hand and don't have enough trumps to splinter. I would bid 1nt (forcing) and then jump to 3♥ over partner's expected 2m rebid. Then partner is captain and can decide what to do, based on your accurately having described your hand.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 15:58

I'll confirm that GIB plays 2/1.
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