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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2007-July-21, 16:05

W - N - E - S
3-X-4-5
ps-ps-ps


The lead is spade to east's ace and spade 10 to the queen, king and ruff.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 16:55

draw trump by losing simple finesse, try KAruff for QJx somewhere which there will obviously not be, then take the losing heart finesse. -1.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 17:25

t3. King of .
t4. Ace of .
t5. Ruff a high.
t6. Return to board with the Ace of (don't finesse)
t7. Ruff the last high, stripping out the black suits.
t8. Throw East in with a , he takes his King.
He is endplayed & must give us a ruff/sluff or lead a .
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Posted 2007-July-22, 01:06

I like club club club ruff high, ace of diamonds club ruff diamond as well.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 01:58

Jlall, on Jul 22 2007, 09:06 AM, said:

I like club club club ruff high, ace of diamonds club ruff diamond as well.

It's not unusual to open 3 on KJxxxxx x Kx xxx or something like that. But I'll still go along with this plan to endplay east with Kx. If this fails (west holds the K) we can still play west for Tx.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 02:44

skaeran, on Jul 22 2007, 08:58 AM, said:

Jlall, on Jul 22 2007, 09:06 AM, said:

I like  club club club ruff high, ace of diamonds club ruff diamond as well.

It's not unusual to open 3 on KJxxxxx x Kx xxx or something like that. But I'll still go along with this plan to endplay east with Kx. If this fails (west holds the K) we can still play west for Tx.

I'm pretty confident West would have led a heart with a singleton rather than his poxy spade suit.

After A, K and a club ruff:
i) If West has at least 3 clubs I think he's 7=2=1=3. Fluffy carefully didn't give us the vulnerability, which means he thinks 6=2=2=3 or 6=2=1=4 aren't possible (KJ9xxx xx x Qxxx is a 3S opening for me i1st at green)

ii) IF West has a doubleton club you are indeed losing to 7=2=2=2 by playing the elimination. But it still feels better odds as you pick up singleton king, as well as either 10x or Qx in West's hand.
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Posted 2007-July-22, 04:05

FrancesHinden, on Jul 22 2007, 08:44 AM, said:

Fluffy carefully didn't give us the vulnerability, which means he thinks 6=2=2=3 or 6=2=1=4 aren't possible (KJ9xxx xx x Qxxx is a 3S opening for me i1st at green)

LHO is junior and I don't think any inference from vulnerability will be very valid in this case. The vul was love all.
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Posted 2007-July-23, 07:01

The line proposed by Ralph and Jlall is the one I would take at any form of scoring.

It is clearly right at IMPs. At matchpoints or BAM, it might give up an overtrick, but the contract is good and the chances of an overtrick are low.
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Posted 2007-July-23, 12:13

I took gwnn's line :lol:
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Posted 2007-July-24, 16:49

Some will look puzzled just liek I did, this was the full deal:




Only 6 pairs (including me) out of 126 scored -50, probably some were in 6 diamonds.

Much higher ratio in the forums hehe.
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Posted 2007-July-25, 02:35

But surely you are still making, by playing West for the H10 rather than the HQ?
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Posted 2007-July-25, 03:19

FrancesHinden, on Jul 25 2007, 08:35 AM, said:

But surely you are still making, by playing West for the H10 rather than the HQ?

I actually played for a - squeeze in East hoping for Q10x beause that was the only way to recover from the trick I lost to the field (and because if Q was onside 4 went for 500). But it didn`t work. Actually if it did work West would had returrned a heart instead of a trump after overruffing the club.

I had no 8 for back finese (or how is it called to run J?). Maybe I am missing a line wich works.
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