[simbridge]

Scoring: IMP

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the bidding goes

P-P-1♦-X-
1♠-1NT-X-2♥
P-P-3♦-P
P-?

What do u bid here?

[Gerben42]

Welcome to the forums!

Would have bid 4♥ instead of 2nd pass but somehow opponent's bidding suggests partner does not have his hand? I dbl now.

[the hog]

What he said.

[DWM]

Almost ditto

I am torn between double and 4H, saying that if I bid 4H now it will be harder to justify my previous pass in the PM.

[FrancesHinden]

You can't believe that partner has a strong single-suiter with hearts, he would have redoubled 1NT with that.

It sounds as if partner has a light 4=5=4=0. Particularly opposite a passed hand, I imagine a lot of people would double 1D on, say, Kxxx QJ10xx - K10xx. Opposite that hand, where do you want to play?

[P_Marlowe]

X, I know, which contract I want to play 3DX,
you can convince me that pass is better, but
...

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Fluffy]

partner psycked the first double, so pass.

[Free]

Pass

[pclayton]

FrancesHinden, on Jul 18 2007, 04:32 AM, said:

You can't believe that partner has a strong single-suiter with hearts, he would have redoubled 1NT with that.

It sounds as if partner has a light 4=5=4=0. Particularly opposite a passed hand, I imagine a lot of people would double 1D on, say, Kxxx QJ10xx - K10xx. Opposite that hand, where do you want to play?

I swear, I read the 1st 4 or 5 answers to this thread, and I think I'm losing my marbles. Then I read Frances' post and realize I'm not nuts.

Pard would have redoubled with a real hand. 2♥ is runnnnning. How else does he bid a 4513 / 4504 9 count?

Thankfully, they settle in my best suit. A trump lead looks detrimental to 3♥, and I like my chances in 3♦, so I'll pass.

I'm not doubling. Why hang pard for making an initial, lite agressive action?

[helene_t]

Frances must be right. I voted X but pass is probably better.

[ArtK78]

What is this, the Twilight Zone?

I always believe my partner and I only believe the opponents when their actions are consistent with what my partner tells me he has.

Why did partner pull 1NTx? Because he wanted to bid his cards before the auction got too high. He has a strong distributional hand with long hearts, too good for a heart overcall. And he feared that, despite his power, the opps could take 7 tricks against 1NTx.

I bid 4H over 2H. I am not in the position to worry about the answer to the question posed. It is a downright silly question.

[simbridge]

Scoring: IMP

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Thanks all for the reply, this is my first post although I do read here as a guest regularly Hope to post more to discuss. Always love to learn and improve in the game.

The full hand is shown above. I personally do not agree with the X by North, I prefer a 1♥ overcall. The poll suggests a X, but most of the replies here suggests a Pass. I guess it pays to be conservative at IMPs, as we never know what monster declarer has, and we would not want to convert a part-score into a game for them. Oh, the final contract is 3DX= with less than ideal defence

What I am not sure, however, is with my holding and after the takeout X, isn't -2 quite likely, thus easily getting plenty IMPs? And I also always thought that shows a X-rebid hand in ♥, but guess Frances is right lol...otherwise 4♥ would be an easy bid.

Also for the play, is it always a down 2 for this hand no matter how well the declarer plays? On a ♥ lead, with better defence of course.

[P_Marlowe]

simbridge, on Jul 18 2007, 09:18 PM, said:

<snip>
What I am not sure, however, is with my holding and after the takeout X, isn't -2 quite likely, thus easily getting plenty IMPs? And I also always thought that shows a X-rebid hand in ♥, but guess Frances is right lol...otherwise 4♥ would be an easy bid.

Also for the play, is it always a down 2 for this hand no matter how well the declarer plays? On a ♥ lead, with better defence of course.

-2X would be quite ok, which just shows, that you
have to work on your defence.

I am not saying that X is matadory, since partners
hand is not surprinsing, t/o instead oft 1H is an
valid option, although one would prefer to have 4
spades instead of 4 clubs, but as long as you know
that you may face such a hand, the penalty X is ok.


With kind regards
Marlowe

[skjaeran]

P_Marlowe, on Jul 19 2007, 08:03 AM, said:

simbridge, on Jul 18 2007, 09:18 PM, said:

<snip>
What I am not sure, however, is with my holding and after the takeout X, isn't -2 quite likely, thus easily getting plenty IMPs? And I also always thought that shows a X-rebid hand in ♥, but guess Frances is right lol...otherwise 4♥ would be an easy bid.

Also for the play, is it always a down 2 for this hand no matter how well the declarer plays? On a ♥ lead,  with better defence of course. 

-2X would be quite ok, which just shows, that you
have to work on your defence.

I am not saying that X is matadory, since partners
hand is not surprinsing, t/o instead oft 1H is an
valid option, although one would prefer to have 4
spades instead of 4 clubs, but as long as you know
that you may face such a hand, the penalty X is ok.


With kind regards
Marlowe

The north hand is an obvious 1♥ overcall. I'd never consider at t/o double. Even if you move a card from the ♣ suit to ♠'s, I'd still overcall 1♥, but then I can understand a t/o double, even if it's not my cup of tea.

[Apollo81]

I think this is, as the title suggests, a simple hand.

If you think that partner has psyched or otherwise doesn't have his takeout double, pass. Otherwise double.

[jtfanclub]

simbridge, on Jul 18 2007, 09:18 PM, said:

Always love to learn and improve in the game.

Tell your partner to start trusting you and leave in the 1NTX. Your bid was free (partner would get another bid if you passed 1♠), and you heard his X, so you ought to have 2 diamond stops and a spade stop, which is exactly what you have.

I suppose there's a way to go down in 1NTX, but you'd have to work darn hard at it.

[ralph23]

♣♦♥♠

Partner's first call is the root of the problem. (And to boot, why did he bid over 1NTx? I have my bid and he has values in ♠♥ and ♣!!)

Double is close to preposterous IMHO and I can't imagine most players being "imaginative" enough to double here.

His ♥ suit is not that great, true, but it's certainly far from the worst overcall in the world, and you see what problems partner creates in rounds N+1 by mis-describing his hand on round N....

After partner refuses 1NTx and bids 2♥ my only explanation is that we are playing with a 60-point deck.

[ArtK78]

I don't mind the takeout double on the North hand. But if you make a takeout double, you NEVER BID AGAIN. You can always say that you had a heart mixed in with your spades.

I am not disappointed with 1NTx. It is going to be close. I expect to take 6 or 7 tricks.

[simbridge]

I quite confused here now, so after the 1NT-X, Pass first then come in 2♥ later if got chance? and bid 2♥ direct here shows a strong hand with ♥? Then wat bout XX, although I think XX with all strong hands may then lose the space to show the ♥ suit easily later in the bidding.