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#21 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

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Posted 2007-June-22, 09:39

inquiry, on Jun 22 2007, 01:10 PM, said:

goobers, on Jun 21 2007, 12:00 PM, said:

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1 - 1
2 - 2NT
3 - 3NT
4 - 4
6

2 is new minor forcing by opener (see inquiry2over1 blog)
2NT is signoff attempt in clubs, or game try in suit above clubs, or slam try in clubs
3 is to accept signoff if that is the intent. Could bid 3 if short in clubs and long in diamonds
3NT is milder of the slam try in clubs
4 is minorwood
4 two keys no trump queen

So you are playing in 6C opposite

AKJx
Kx
Jxx
Kxxx

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Posted 2007-June-22, 11:34

There's no way partner can pass 3D after 1D-1M-2C-3C-3D. If we had a minimum hand we would pass 3C. Since we are bidding over 3C, we are showing extra values and enough to at least try for game opposite partners raise. We are not in a GAME force but we're certainly in a force as our game try could be a slam try or a game force unclear what the best game is, etc etc.
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Posted 2007-June-22, 11:39

Jlall, on Jun 22 2007, 12:34 PM, said:

There's no way partner can pass 3D after 1D-1M-2C-3C-3D. If we had a minimum hand we would pass 3C. Since we are bidding over 3C, we are showing extra values and enough to at least try for game opposite partners raise. We are not in a GAME force but we're certainly in a force as our game try could be a slam try or a game force unclear what the best game is, etc etc.

Second that.

Whereas 1...2...3 is passable after a courtesy correction, IMO, 3 is not passable.
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Posted 2007-June-22, 11:55

kenrexford, on Jun 22 2007, 12:39 PM, said:

Whereas 1...2...3 is passable after a courtesy correction

Right, the key differences being

A) the courtesy correction did not establish a fit (it could easily be 2-3 in the minors) and

B) the courtesy correction did not show values above the minimum, so if opener is maximum for 2C and responder is minimum for his auction there doesn't have to be a game.

In the given auction a fit is established and responder has shown more than minimum.
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