[djehuti]

Scoring: IMP

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1♦ - (pass) - 1♥ - (2♥)
2♠ - (pass) - 3♣ - pass
3♠ - (X) - 3NT - (X) - all pass

2 down.
Over 2♠, lebensol was available.
Would you avoid this?

[Codo]

Yes I would avoid two down, try to make, taking 8 tricks anyway.
But I had bid 3 NT - on a different route- anyway.

[Gerben42]

North should bid 3♦ instead of 3♠, and South should pass this. There is no need to repeat the bad ♠ rather than the good ♦, if South has 3-card support he will bid them.

Misfit --> stop bidding.

[djehuti]

8 tricks is kind of magic

[Fluffy]

1♠-ps-1NT-2♥
3♦-ps-3NT-ps
ps-ps

I avoided the double (but if West bids 3♥ instead of 2 I might play a stupid 4♠.)


As Gerben suggest, you can treat the spade suit as a 4 carder, then you would not rebid it wich ends in the same contract of course, but maybe not doubled.

[whereagles]

I don't think you can avoid this disaster except with mastermind bids which can very well be wrong on other setups.

Opening 1♠ might make it easier to avoid trouble, but if 1♦ is your style, you should stick to it

[Codo]

djehuti, on Jun 20 2007, 08:08 PM, said:

8 tricks is kind of magic

Do you mind to share the defence which makes 8 tricks magic?

I just checked it, GIB says 7 tricks after that lead. But this is double dummy.
I believe that it was wrong to play diamonds so quick. Not because you get the nasty surprise, but because you need another trick before you ruin your communication.
SO I would try a club. Now west must be good enough to refuse this trick, which is not too easy, becaus if you have just K, Kxxxx, xxx, AQxx, you now simply have 9 tricks if he does not cover. But okay, you may had played that hand different, so he stays cool and small. Now East wins the trick and plays a heart back, you cover (ducking is another idea) and west? He knows, that he may never regain the lead, so he may well cash out the ace of Heart and return a spade?
after all he believes (like you) that diam0nds may produce 6 tricks....

In reallity, 6 people played 3 NT. I made it with a lot of help.
2 failed by one trick, 3 by 2 tricks. I really think, this is a horrible hand to play and quite easy to fail as defender.

[pbleighton]

1D is very marginal IMO. It's not horrible, though, and I agree with whereagles, if 1D is your style, you should stick to it.

Peter

[djehuti]

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Do you mind to share the defence which makes 8 tricks magic?

Maybe you are not looking properly at the hand or the bidding. Anyway the lead was a pretty normal ♠jack, won in hand with the queen. I dont understand your analysis at all.