[Aberlour10]

should I ask for aces?

played an indy with p without profile....my hand in second seat:

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Opps opened 2S in first seat, I decided to bid 5H like("bid 6 if you have an ace")
I did not know which sort of blackwood my p usually bids, so I did not take 4NT.
Was this 5H a reasonable bid or not?

Robert

[Rossoneri]

What are the odds that if partner has an ace it is the correct one? I would think it is more likely to be the ♥A since you are void and have 4 ♦s...

[han]

jillybean2, on May 14 2007, 07:29 AM, said:

Im with Mike7777 here; for those who are suggesting exclusion shake your head! Try that with a casual bbo partner and you are quite likely to be playing 5♥.
Are people really recommending that it should be added to the "useful for beginner/intermediate convention list" ?

I recommend you don't try this with casual partners unless they are advanced players.

[goobers]

Why blast 7? Is GSF non standard?

If we can ask partner about the top 2 trumps, why don't we?

If partner has the HA and not the DA, you won't get it right after keycard either.

[P_Marlowe]

Aberlour10, on May 14 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

should I ask for aces?

played an indy with p without profile....my hand in second seat:

Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown

♠ 2 ♥ AKQ98732 ♦ AKQ ♣ 6

Opps opened 2S in first seat, I decided to bid 5H like("bid 6 if you have an ace")
I did not know which sort of blackwood my p usually bids, so I did not take 4NT.
Was this 5H a reasonable bid or not?

Robert

No.

I prefer a takeout X followed by 5H.
The main trouble with a direct 5H bid
is, that someone may construct is as
preemptive.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

Rossoneri, on May 14 2007, 10:24 AM, said:

What are the odds that if partner has an ace it is the correct one? I would think it is more likely to be the ♥A since you are void and have 4 ♦s...

and partner has 7 diamonds, i.e. the odds
are 7:6, assume he has only a 6 carder,
which would change the odds to 6:7,
do you think he bids 3D with Qxxxxx?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[SoTired]

Either 4N or 5N should work here. Exclusionary RKC for the B/I forum? Is this a joke?

6D gives up on grand when it might be easy to bid. Who knows? Maybe opener has both red aces and 4N makes it easy to bid the grand. But if opener shows 1 ace over 4N, the odds greatly favor bidding 7D.

5N has the advantage that if opener has ♦AQ, opener will just bid 7D and if opener has ♦A only, opener will bid 6C to show it.

The problem with 5N is that many B/I have not heard of it or will not know how to bid over it.

[skjaeran]

I'd bid 5♥ exclusion with an advanced+ partner. 4NT should work just as well though, since he won't have an outside ace. The GSF (stupid name since it doesn't force to a grand slam) of course works fine too.

Playing with a beginner/intermediate I might just raise to 7♦ (no offence implied).