[MickyB]

Scoring: IMP

(3♥)-5♦-(X)-?

4♦ by partner would have been artificial.

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[whereagles]

from the fryer to the fire

6♣

[SoTired]

never table an 8-card suit - 6C

[inquiry]

Probably no. There are some circumstances where I might that is not covered in your description of your partners 5♦ bid. Just having 4♦ "as artificial" does not tell us what other hand types partner can have for his 5♦ bid. I suspect at these colors partner bid 5♦ to make not as a preemipt. Do you bid 5♦ to shut out a 4♥ raise so it can be (or is) a prrempt?

You said 4♦ would be artificial, I assume michaels showing diamonds and spades. This assumption supposes the possibilty at least that you play Thrump doubles, with minor one suiter looking for 3NT if partner has heart stopper. Partner can bid a four card major if he has one without a heart stopper. Is that your treatment.

What would 4NT over 3H be? (pick a minor). And if partner bid 4NT over 3H, what would 5D pull of 5C be?

What would a 4♥ cue-bid have been.

If partner was thinking of making 5♦ with the stuff I have, RHO is doubling on diamond stack and six clubs could be laydown. An added complication, 6♦ or 6♣ maybe on ice and RHO is making a stripe-tail double. So we have to have some way to put limits on partners 4♦ bid.

Would he bid 5♦ as oppossed to thrump double only with a no-loser opposite a singleton hand? Or would he thrump that hand? Would he bid 4NT and pull to 5♦ with club tolerance, slam interest and tons of diamonds? What would he cue-bid then bid 5♦ with? If his thrump double is the one that promises solid diamonds, then run has merit as he will have several diamond losers and rates to have a few clubs. If 5♦ shows the solid suit and he could have used 4NT and pull with any kind of club tolerance, then pass is right.

[Codo]

so pd with the same thought will bid 6 Diamonds because he has:
KT
863
AQT76543
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Sh... it happens

But anyway I am in the 6 Club club too. May be worse may be golden.
I doubt that this is more expensive then passing but maybe it is a real winning descission.

[whereagles]

pard shd have passed 3♥. There's no need to bid: he's weakish and pard (you) are short in hearts.

sack him

[paulg]

My partner passed when he faced this problem.

Paul

[P_Marlowe]

No.

Pass, I wont have a chance to
defend the bid, in case 5D makes.
And do I really believe, that we
make 2 tricks more in clubs in case
clubs are trumps instead of diamonds?

4D as art. means, partner may have streched,
but he may have not, who knows.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Fluffy]

I would make a disciplined pass, but this is a situation where you wanna be in the table to see RHO's face.

[pclayton]

How fast did the double card come out? Even good players under stress fire the card a little too fast sometimes.

If it was a methodical double; probably based on honor strength instead of trump, I'll pass, but if it was an assertive double, I'll pull.

[pclayton]

SoTired, on May 9 2007, 06:24 AM, said:

never table an 8-card suit - 6C

Pard may be about to when he lays it down in 6♣.

[MFA]

6♣. It might make. 5♦x will not.

[MickyB]

This was the problem we gave oppo. Pard has xx A KQJT9xxxx J so corrected back to 6♦. This went two off (we failed to take our club ruff) for a large swing out when my teammate led the J♣, letting 5♥ X make.

[skjaeran]

MFA, on May 9 2007, 09:19 PM, said:

6♣. It might make. 5♦x will not.

I don't think there's much chance 6♣ will make. Nor 5♦. But I'd not surprised at all if 5♦ is the cheaper alternative, nor if parnter corrected 6♣ to 6♦.

So I'd pass.