[dcvetkov]

Fluffy, on May 8 2007, 03:48 AM, said:

dcvetkov, on May 8 2007, 08:27 AM, said:

I dont really see why we should bid anything else then 3NT.

Because it is sad to loose first 5 tricks when you have 11 (or 12) in diamonds, what is the correct meaning or 3♠, I don't know.

Losing first 5 tricks? In which suit?
Partner would not bid 2NT with nothing in spades, the unbid suit and we have the jack as a bonus.

Yes, 3NT can go down, but not with losing the first 5 tricks, that is very unlikely.

[dcvetkov]

jdonn, on May 8 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

Actually whereagles does have a point in that our hand is very slam suitable. Of course we have to bid 3NT now since partner could be looking for the best game and we are very balanced. But if partner really has slam interest (something his bidding has not at all promised but still could have) and makes any further move, say 4NT over 3NT, I will like my hand so much in context I'll just bid 6♦. It would indeed be hard to picture a hand of this strength that would be better for diamonds on that or a similar auction, and I would then place partner with something like AQx x KQTxxx KQx or Kx xx AKQxxx KQx.

Ditto.... I agree with this

If parther makes another move, out hand looks good enough for slam and will play well opposite something like 3-1-6-3

AKx x AKQxxx xxx

AQx x AK109xx Kxx

Axx x AKQxxx KQx

[whereagles]

mikeh, on May 9 2007, 12:30 AM, said:

I am sorry, whereagles, but your post is nonsense...

(...)

Consider Qxx xx KQJxx KQx

My post may be nonsense from your point of view, but I really think it's you who's taking a somewhat twisted view of the situation

If I hold Qxx xx KQJxx KQx and see it going

1♥ 2♦
2♥ 2NT
3♣ ..?

if I'm worried of the spade holding, I can always bid 3♥ bid now. Therefore, if I bid 3♦ instead, I should have something closer to

Qxx x KQJxxx KQx

Now, why shouldn't I bid, say, 3♠ (ask for half-stop) instead of 3♦ with this hand?

My conclusion seems to be that 3♦ is more of a slammish bid than a 'looking for the best game' bid. Note also that pard is probably NOT 1534 because he could have bid 3♦ instead of 3♣ in that case.

But ok, that's my interpretation of the situation. What's really important here is to have detailed agreements with pard as to what the bidding priorities are after a 2/1. You're from one school of thought on the matter, I'm probably from another.

[Apollo81]

I'd bid 3NT. too lazy to read all the posts.

[skjaeran]

To busy to log in yesterday night.
The consensus seem to be to bid 3NT, which was what I did at the table. With a nagging feeling that this might not be right. But with a non-regular partner I didn't want to make a not so clear 3♠ bid, and I didn't think I really had enough for 4♦.

The complete hand:

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3NT made +2, where 6♦ was "easy" to make. However, we won 11 IMP's, as opps went -1 in 6NT.
Curiously, we even were +8 in the Butler scoring. One table made 6♦+1, another 3NT+2, one 5♦+1, one 5♥-1, two 6♦-1(!), two 6NT-1 and one 7NTx-2.