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How do you find out about small or grand?

Poll: Your plan (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Your plan

  1. 4N, bidding 7 if partner shows a keycard (15 votes [68.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.18%

  2. 4N, trying for 7 if partner shows a keycard (2 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  3. 5 hearts (3 votes [13.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

  4. 6 hearts (2 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

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#1 User is offline   cherdano 

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Posted 2007-April-01, 13:02

Scoring: IMP

3-(4)-?

I suppose we agree this hand is worth a force to slam, even at this colors? Since 7 might be lay-down, how do you try to decide about 6 vs 7?
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Posted 2007-April-01, 13:14

cherdano, on Apr 1 2007, 10:02 PM, said:

Dealer: North
Vul: E/W
Scoring: IMP
AQ9
 
AQ3
AKJ7543
3-(4)-?

I suppose we agree this hand is worth a force to slam, even at this colors? Since 7 might be lay-down, how do you try to decide about 6 vs 7?

The only thing that concerns me on this hand is the KJ of Spades.

If partnership agreement requires one of the top three honors for a 3 opening then I'm just going to punt 7.

I expect to have plenty of entries to establish the Club suit. If I need to fall back on a finesse, I expect that the King or Queen will be in the pocket.
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Posted 2007-April-01, 14:07

Hi,

the only thing that may worry me,
partner may hold an 8 card suit
headed by the Jack.
A 7 card suit with the Jack is no 3S
opener.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2007-April-01, 14:09

I would bid keycard and 7 if partner shows a keycard. He is probably 10 times as likely to hold the SK as the HA, and this caters to partner showing 0 so I won't just bid 7 now.
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Posted 2007-April-01, 14:13

Yeah 4NT + some nr. of spades seems ok :)
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Posted 2007-April-01, 15:58

Why not 5NT grand slam force?
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Posted 2007-April-01, 16:38

Jlall, on Apr 1 2007, 04:09 PM, said:

I would bid keycard and 7 if partner shows a keycard. He is probably 10 times as likely to hold the SK as the HA, and this caters to partner showing 0 so I won't just bid 7 now.

i agree
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Posted 2007-April-01, 17:19

hatchett, on Apr 1 2007, 01:58 PM, said:

Why not 5NT grand slam force?

Ditto. Pick-a-slam doesn't seem like it makes sense here.
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Posted 2007-April-02, 07:04

5NT "grand slam force" from me as well.

p.s. I believe I recognise this and a few of the companion hands you have put up from a very impressive last set recovery a year or so back. Am I right?
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Posted 2007-April-02, 07:42

5N GSF asks for 2 of top 3 trump honors. Question: have you agreed with partner on what to do if less than 2 of top 3? If you bid 5N and partner bids 6C/6D/6H/6S - Does one of these show the king?

Since I am not sure, I bid 4N and bid 7 if partner shows a keycard.
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Posted 2007-April-02, 09:04

SoTired, on Apr 2 2007, 03:42 PM, said:

5N GSF asks for 2 of top 3 trump honors. Question: have you agreed with partner on what to do if less than 2 of top 3? If you bid 5N and partner bids 6C/6D/6H/6S - Does one of these show the king?

Since I am not sure, I bid 4N and bid 7 if partner shows a keycard.

6=ace or king
6=queen
6=none, but extra lenght
6=nothing

That's the standard responses to the grand slam force where I play.
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Posted 2007-April-02, 09:37

where I play it is =0, = 1 and then 7 of our suit to play, with 6 of our suit leading to missunderstaning most of the time.
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Posted 2007-April-02, 10:03

If this hand is from the same match as the 3=2=2=6 8 count, is pard messing around with J-T 6th? Normally, I would expect a hand good enough for the 5 level, so I'll key card.
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Posted 2007-April-02, 15:06

FrancesHinden, on Apr 2 2007, 07:04 AM, said:

5NT "grand slam force" from me as well.

p.s. I believe I recognise this and a few of the companion hands you have put up from a very impressive last set recovery a year or so back. Am I right?

Good job Frances. Yeah, all these posts should belong into a "World-Class Bridge" subforum.
I will write a longer post later on what happened.

Here, both tables started with 4N, so I assume they did not have a GSF available that can ask for one trump honor.
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Posted 2007-April-05, 13:13

I like 6 bid (unless partner takes it as natural),
the meaning is obvious: I want play 6 or 7 and I have heart void, what is your opinion?
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Posted 2007-April-05, 14:18

Miron, on Apr 5 2007, 07:13 PM, said:

I like 6 bid (unless partner takes it as natural),
the meaning is obvious: I want play 6 or 7 and I have heart void, what is your opinion?

fine, but partner might have problems finding wha tis good to bid 7, Kxxxxx is probably not good enough for him.
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