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Lead? QT8x K9x Jxxx Tx

Poll: Lead? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

Lead?

  1. Spade (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Heart (10 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  3. Diamond (11 votes [44.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.00%

  4. Club (4 votes [16.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.00%

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2007-March-29, 12:59

Scoring: IMP


RHO opens 1, you pass, 1N forcing by LHO, pard bids 2

RHO reverses with 2, you raise to 3, 3 on left, 4 on right.

Your lead?
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Posted 2007-March-29, 13:10

The club ten to try and set up some tricks/ruffs is one possibilty.

A diamond trying to cash your diamond and get either a trump or club shift is another option...

A trump trying to stop ruffs is also an option.

I'd probably go with a club. Then again I'm the worst opening leader ever.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 13:28

I'll vote for the uninspired 3rd best diamond.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 13:58

Just to make sure all possible leads are covered, I'll go for a trump. :P

As Justin said, anything might be right (except a ). I'll try to avoid ruffs in dummy and hope to score late trick(s). 2nd choice:
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Posted 2007-March-29, 14:15

nice problem.

lead is silly. It is the only lead for which it is nearly impossible to find a winning layout.

lead gets us our trick, if we have one, and may allow partner to lead a trump from his side.. possibly allowing us to lead a second round before declarer can ruff s. But our trump length suggests that the tapping defence is unlikely to prevail... and that we may be losing a tempo.

A lead can win: it is easy to see how this can score us a ruff if the suit is 5=3=3=2, with dummy holding 5. We may even get a second trump trick by force if the suit is 6322 and partner has a minor trump honour. But he needs the correct holding and even then, he has to guess accurately if he has the A but no quick side entry: he will have to know to duck the first round. And we may find a layout of KJ9xx in dummy and Axx in declarer, or equivalent.

Or we may find that declarer can cash 3 top s, pitching his loser when we ruff with what would have been our second natural trump trick: partner being dealt Q10 or J10 of trump.

And, finally, we may lose a tempo.

A trump has obvious disadvantages if we were dealt 2 trump tricks or if, by leading a trump, we allow declarer to cash a second round and then run s pitching his loser. But it may limit declarer's ability to ruff sufficient s in dummy.

So, a good problem.

Put me down for a mundane , since I think the chances of losing that trick or setting up the suit are too high for any other lead, and I expect partner to switch to trump when it is right to do so.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 14:50

Trump.

Why? Because I have 4 spades. I do not think it is likely we ever have 2 trump tricks on this auction.

Of course, I am probably going to wish that I led a diamond, so that partner could win and return his trump through declarer instead. Oh well.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 14:51

Apollo81, on Mar 29 2007, 02:28 PM, said:

I'll vote for the uninspired 3rd best diamond.

ditto
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Posted 2007-March-29, 15:53

I am not smart enough to do anything but a diamond, maybe dummy has 3 spades anyway and then trump just gives up too much. I would not be surprised to see a trump or even a club work.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 17:40

Here's the entire hand:



I led a trump, since it seemed dummy had a very weak hand with a little shape.

Seemingly a club sinks it, but by getting our ruff, we give declarer 2 spade pitches.

Push board right? No - teammates got a diamond lead and made the uninpsired play of the 10 from the board :P
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Posted 2007-March-30, 06:29

pclayton, on Mar 29 2007, 07:40 PM, said:

Push board right? No - teammates got a diamond lead and made the uninpsired play of the 10 from the board :)

go team!
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Posted 2007-March-30, 11:46

Lead a D as partner obviously made a lead director. Any shape with a D suit would have done some real interfering bid (I say facetiously).
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Posted 2007-March-30, 14:26

dake50, on Mar 30 2007, 09:46 AM, said:

Lead a D as partner obviously made a lead director. Any shape with a D suit would have done some real interfering bid (I say facetiously).

If my partner made lead directing overcalls vulnerable at the 2 level in a key match, we'd have bigger issues.
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