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How do you play these sequences?

#1 User is offline   ajm218 

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Posted 2006-January-02, 02:28

How do you play the following sequences? (playing a strong no trump and a 2 level response shows a good 11+ hand (or about that) but is only forcing to 2nt not GF, so
1 P 2 P
2 is forcing)

Uncontested

1 P 2 P
3?

1 P 2 P
4?

1 P 2 P
3? (Is this a good hand with diamonds or a minimum with diamonds?)

Contested (Opp is dealer)
1 P 1 1
P ?
How do you play 2s and 2s,?
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Posted 2006-January-02, 03:35

1-2
2

I play 10-5 (exceptionally 16) with 5 or more cards, can have 4 or 3


1-2
3

Is slam try on (even if partner is void), almost forces cue.


1-2
4

Is gamble, minimum with 7 cards.

About the 2 cuebids, I play both the same way to keep it simple (althou the one I cue on I am suposed to be stronger in). I know it is not optimum.
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Posted 2006-January-02, 03:51

1-2
2

Tends to be minimum (or no other bid available) with 5 or more cards, can have 4


1-2
3

Very good 6-carder suit playable with nothing in front and extras.


1-2
4

Idem Fluffy : gamble, minimum with 7 cards.

1-2
3

Usually 4 cards (can be 3 with an honnour) and a good hand.

About the 2 cuebids, I play 2 as natural (as I sit after the ) and 2 as a good raise in .

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Posted 2006-January-03, 15:20

Ooops, forgot 1-2-3 :), this is forcing to me, to keep it simple, any rebid by opener of 2NT or higher (if opponets pass) is game forcing.
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Posted 2006-January-03, 15:39

1S-2D-2S is just catch all. Denies a hand suitable for any other bid. Can be made on a bad 5 card suit.

1S-2D-3S extra values and a good 6+ card suit (1 loser at most). I don't think in SAYC this should have the same meaning as in 2/1 (solid suit sets trumps requests a cue).

1S-2D-4S= non existant that I know about. I suppose no round suit control and solid spades or something. I have never made this bid.

1C p 1H 1S p ?

2C=natural
2H=good spade raise.
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Posted 2006-January-03, 17:21

1:2
2

If you believe that you can show an 18 count with a poor 6 card spade suit after bidding like this then great :) I'm not familiar enough with the style. If so...

1:2
3 - suit that you expect to play for one loser opposite a singleton

1:2
4 - dunno, a string of spades and a little too much outside to open 4? But I imagine that could bid 2 and await developments...not sure.

1:2
3 - Game-forcing, slight extras - with a minimum bid 2 and support later if partner requires another bid from you.

It is worth considering using opener's 2NT rebid as artificial (eg GF single suiter)

The contested auction - 2 nat (over the club bidder and he may be short in many methods), 2 good raise.
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Posted 2006-January-04, 08:48

In my style, 2 shows 6 (or 5 very good). Poor 5 shld bid 2NT if no cheaper 4-carder. To bid 2 with 5 poor is tantamount to saying your 2 rebid is nearly totally non-descriptive.
1-2, 3 does not promise extras but is forcing on you this round. We might stop in 4D.
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Posted 2006-January-04, 09:28

ajm218, on Jan 2 2006, 03:28 AM, said:


1 P 2 P
2 is forcing)

1) Can still be a fairly good hand (we are forced to 2NT so can be a waiting bid)
2) Denies 4+ hearts (ok, ok, xxxx of hearts doesn't look like a four card suit

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1 P 2 P
3?

1) forcing to game
2) Self-sufficient suit (no more than one loser opposite a singleton)

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1 P 2 P
4?

1) Seven or eight card suit, control poor
2) says I probably should have opened 4 or 3
Responder needs lots of controls to continue. Opener will have two key cards only if missing the trump queen.

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1 P 2 P
3? (Is this a good hand with diamonds or a minimum with diamonds?)

1) Game force
2) Good diamond fit

You can rebid 2 initially then raise diamonds with a minimum hand and diamonsd.

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Contested (Opp is dealer)
1 P 1 1
P ?
How do you play 2s and 2s,?

1) 2 can not be hearts and forcnig because your partner would have overcalled 1. So 2 is constructive spade raise or better (note iwth 2 as a "good" spade raise, a direct 2 raise is just competitive.
2) 2 is natural, and non-forcing, but presumably constructive since you made a sandwich overcall at the one level, spades must be "playable" so he doesn't have to rescue you.
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