min for 3c is some (331)6 shape with AKTxxx clubs or so, up to a poor 12 with 5 clubs.
Every GF starts with the cuebid. So its invitational but with a focus on clubs.
2S on this auction is natural, but should be a good 5 spades, a poor 5 can just dble.
Another undiscussed auction How would you interpret it?
#22
Posted 2012-March-05, 00:49
To me free bid is not equal to jump bid. It only and only promises playing shape, nothing else. Thus jumping to 3♣ here is almost exactly as same as the jump w/o 1♠ bid. Anything more than that is way too much as Francis explained.
Pd may have
AKx Qxxx x Axxxx
and u may have (can be double game swing, or everyone goes down 1, who knows)
xx x xxxx Qxxxxx
u have to bid 2♣ now. Or it goes 2♠ on your left 4♠ on your right and you either take a save and sometimes find pd with this or sometimes with only 3♣. Once u bid 2♣ pd will never let them play 4♠. And i said the same thing in the past couple times.
I mean this is not like you are bidding a suit of your own, you are bidding a suit that was implied by partner.
Idk, maybe i am bidding too agressive....
Pd may have
AKx Qxxx x Axxxx
and u may have (can be double game swing, or everyone goes down 1, who knows)
xx x xxxx Qxxxxx
u have to bid 2♣ now. Or it goes 2♠ on your left 4♠ on your right and you either take a save and sometimes find pd with this or sometimes with only 3♣. Once u bid 2♣ pd will never let them play 4♠. And i said the same thing in the past couple times.
I mean this is not like you are bidding a suit of your own, you are bidding a suit that was implied by partner.
Idk, maybe i am bidding too agressive....
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#23
Posted 2012-March-05, 02:57
S2000magic, on 2012-March-01, 11:17, said:
How about a double, or either cue bid (2♦ or 2♠)?
As you can see, I'm trying to narrow it down to it-can't-mean-that-because-this-other-action-would-mean-that.
Thanks for all the good posts, by the way!
As you can see, I'm trying to narrow it down to it-can't-mean-that-because-this-other-action-would-mean-that.
Thanks for all the good posts, by the way!
We play something like unusally vs. unsusual in this seq., i.e.
2D would show an inv. raise for clubs, 2S would be an inv. raise for
hearts. This frees up 3C and 3H, to showbe preemptive raises.
But this is certainly not standard.
Also lots of peoble would play 2S as natural, a hand, that does not
want to make a penalty double, just wants to bid spades in a competitive
manner.
I dont think it matters a lot.
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#24
Posted 2012-March-05, 11:21
P_Marlowe, on 2012-March-05, 02:57, said:
I dont think it matters a lot.
Unless, of course, you and your partner disagree on the meaning.
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