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Diana & Friends Daylong Uses prepared deals

#1 User is offline   diana_eva 

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Posted 2021-February-02, 03:33

I set up a small private daylong called Diana & Friends.

It uses cooked deals, most of them recycled from other daylongs.

So if you recognize the hands, that's ok, keep playing, not a bug.

I accidentally opened it to all BBO forum members (instead of a much smaller beta-testing group), but it's not a problem if more people play it, as long as everyone aware the hands are intentionally repeating.

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Posted 2021-February-02, 09:17

it took me awhile but recognized some of the hands LOL
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Posted 2021-February-20, 21:01

Don't want to flood the discussion about boards, so I am posting here.

I log in very rarely these months, so I am missing many things...

Was it an initial one time happening, or is it already a regular tournament? If the latter, what is the schedule? If the former, when is it expected to start being regular?

Thanks in advance
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Posted 2021-February-21, 05:48

View PostPovratnik, on 2021-February-20, 21:01, said:

Don't want to flood the discussion about boards, so I am posting here.

I log in very rarely these months, so I am missing many things...

Was it an initial one time happening, or is it already a regular tournament? If the latter, what is the schedule? If the former, when is it expected to start being regular?

Thanks in advance


It was supposed to be just a test, but since many friends liked it -- particularly the editions with cooked hands -- I'm leaving it on as a regular event.

Tourney is created every Monday and can be played until Tuesday (48 hours). It can be either prepared deals (usually stuff I messed up in other tourneys) or random.


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Posted 2021-February-23, 09:44

I strongly encourage people to play this week's -- there's a fun "theme".

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Posted 2021-February-23, 12:52

View Postbarmar, on 2021-February-23, 09:44, said:

I strongly encourage people to play this week's -- there's a fun "theme".

After a few deals, I was almost programmed to ignore the first three calls :)
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Posted 2021-February-23, 16:30

Be sneaky. Re-cook the hands by changing them just a little......
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Posted 2021-February-23, 20:32

View Postdiana_eva, on 2021-February-21, 05:48, said:

It was supposed to be just a test, but since many friends liked it -- particularly the editions with cooked hands -- I'm leaving it on as a regular event.

Tourney is created every Monday and can be played until Tuesday (48 hours). It can be either prepared deals (usually stuff I messed up in other tourneys) or random.


Thank you :). Hope I'll play next week
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Posted 2021-February-23, 21:11

Interesting. But the vulnerabilities displayed were wrong on many deals - which is fine for a quiz! But it scored according to the real vulnerabilities, which doesn't seem fair to me. Fun anyway!

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Posted 2021-February-23, 23:21

View Postmycroft, on 2021-February-23, 21:11, said:

Interesting. But the vulnerabilities displayed were wrong on many deals - which is fine for a quiz! But it scored according to the real vulnerabilities, which doesn't seem fair to me. Fun anyway!




I noticed this on Board 1 and immediately wrote to Diana saying that I felt unethical stealing points from my EW opponent.
I was concerned that it might be a wrench in the works for the generally well-mannered robots.
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Posted 2021-February-24, 01:58

Not sure we can make it take custom board numbers like 4, 4, 8, 8, 12, 12 but we'll try. Vuls were like that because it was prepared deals, West was dealer on all of them.

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Posted 2021-February-24, 02:03

View Postdiana_eva, on 2021-February-24, 01:58, said:

Not sure we can make it take custom board numbers like 4, 4, 8, 8, 12, 12 but we'll try. Vuls were like that because it was prepared deals, West was dealer on all of them.


Would this help?

You can specify two hands, and rotate hands with dealer position optionally.
Afterwards, you can fiddle with the lin file in any text editor.
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Posted 2021-February-24, 02:17

View Postpilowsky, on 2021-February-24, 02:03, said:

Would this help?
http://www.playbridg...n_set2hands.php
You can specify two hands, and rotate hands with dealer position optionally.
Afterwards, you can fiddle with the lin file in any text editor.


No

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Posted 2021-February-24, 10:16

My problem, Diana, is that the scoring didn't reflect the vulnerability. In one, although it didn't matter (but it would have had they doubled), I went down 3 for 300 (instead of 150) NV vs V. If I'm judging my "how far down do I go if their contract makes (which it looks like it does)" or "how far down do I think I can take this (in case bidding makes)", that's critical, and I didn't notice it until board 6.
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Posted 2021-February-24, 13:10

View Postmycroft, on 2021-February-24, 10:16, said:

My problem, Diana, is that the scoring didn't reflect the vulnerability. In one, although it didn't matter (but it would have had they doubled), I went down 3 for 300 (instead of 150) NV vs V. If I'm judging my "how far down do I go if their contract makes (which it looks like it does)" or "how far down do I think I can take this (in case bidding makes)", that's critical, and I didn't notice it until board 6.


Yes, understood. I didn't expect the scores to be computed based on board number.

It's not intentional behaviour, I'm just experimenting and learning for now. So today we learned that even tho vul is kept, score is not correct :)

We'll check if this can be fixed.

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Posted 2021-February-24, 13:27

Absolutely no problem; I know this is an experiment. That's why I reported it.

I came something like 170th; I'm guessing that this was responsible for me not coming maybe 150th, if that. Oh my, the world is going to end. I went from nowhere to nowhere in a tournament that is specifically designed for fun and is worth absolutely nothing for my bridge cred.

If it sounded like anything other than a bug report, I apologize.
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Posted 2021-March-01, 04:57

Board 1 in the latest instalment is super elegant. I feel bad that I played an entirely different contract than what was (probably) intended.

I posted this during my session. I'm looking forward to the remaining boards.
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Posted 2021-March-01, 05:54

You weren't supposed to be able to choose the contract...

I probably messed up the settings, I'll check :)

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Posted 2021-March-01, 06:27

Cancelled and re-posted the tourney.

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Posted 2021-March-01, 16:56

View Postdiana_eva, on 2021-February-24, 13:10, said:

Yes, understood. I didn't expect the scores to be computed based on board number.
It's not intentional behaviour, I'm just experimenting and learning for now. So today we learned that even tho vul is kept, score is not correct :)
We'll check if this can be fixed.


You can remove the board numbers from LIN files - or renumber the boards.
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